RMRU rescue in Carumba

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RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby Ellen » Thu Apr 21, 2016 9:36 am

Howdy All :)

Another great save by the Riverside Mountain Rescue Unit and an excellent write up of the mission by Matt Jordan :D

http://www.rmru.org/missions/2016/2016-015.html

Miles of smiles,
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Re: RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby Ed » Thu Apr 21, 2016 12:02 pm

Three mountain lions and four people? I think that makes the humans outmatched.

I have a dark view of starting fires, for either signaling or warmth. It doesn't help that my house burned down in the 2003 Cedar Fire, started by a hunter's signal fire, and worse yet about 14 people died the first night. But I was opposed to them long before that. If it is cold and wet, it is quite difficult to start a fire and keep it going. If it is dry, it is dangerous. Personally, I think matches and fire starting material should be dropped from the 10 essentials, it encourages people to believe it is a proper thing to do. Better to carry some warm clothing.
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Re: RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby 2600fromatari » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:58 pm

WOW!!! Three kitty cats in one area. That was a poop in your pants moment.
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Re: RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby Hikin_Jim » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:58 pm

Nice write up by Matt.

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Re: RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby cynthia23 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 5:36 pm

Wow, a dramatic and well-done write-up. Really engaging. I can only imagine how creepy the tram station would be late at night! (some here though already know!)

I think I might have to come down on Ed's side about the lost man starting a fire--unless I felt I was about to perish from hypothermia, I don't think I would ever risk starting a fire on Mt San J. In our hyper-dry forests it's just too dangerous. You are literally playing with fire. I'd rather freeze to death than be burned up in a forest fire.

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Re: RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby zippetydude » Sun Apr 24, 2016 1:58 pm

From the write-up it sounds like the person acted responsibly. In particular it mentions that he had only a small fire, so I think he was probably handling the situation pretty well. As long as it's not windy, in which case the fire would be a terrible idea, I think the chances of a little fire getting out of control are close to zero. BTW, I may just have bad judgment, but I've seen mountain lions on 6 different occasions, always miles away from the nearest help, but never have they seemed scary to me. Fascinating, beautiful, yes...aggressive and frightening, well, not yet!

I thought the writing style added a lot to the enjoyment of the report as well. Nice job on that!

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Re: RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby Ed » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:49 am

zippetydude wrote:BTW, I may just have bad judgment, but I've seen mountain lions on 6 different occasions, always miles away from the nearest help, but never have they seemed scary to me. Fascinating, beautiful, yes...aggressive and frightening, well, not yet!


You are much braver than I am, Zip. Though It is the one you don't see that worries me. Below is a list of mountain lion attacks in California. If you want, you can take comfort from the fact that there are only six deaths. On the other hand, note that there were deaths in Southern California in 1994 (Cuyamaca Peak) and 2004 (Orange County). The woman who was killed on Cuyamaca Peak was attacked from behind. And it was on a Saturday morning, as I remember, in a well-hiked area.

http://tchester.org/sgm/lists/lion_attacks_ca.html
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Re: RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby zippetydude » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:10 am

Yipes, that's pretty scary Ed! I had no idea...all the mountain lions I have encountered have fled immediately upon seeing me. Strange how there were no reported attacks for over 70 years and now there have been quite a few. It's not like there were no people here during those years...kind of a mystery.

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Re: RMRU rescue in Carumba

Postby Ed » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:55 am

zippetydude wrote:Strange how there were no reported attacks for over 70 years and now there have been quite a few. It's not like there were no people here during those years...kind of a mystery.


Think it had something to do with when hunting them was outlawed.

I think the fires also make a difference. Reports of mountain lion sightings around here (east San Diego County) were much more frequent before the Cedar Fire in 2003. And they were very unafraid. My wife saw one next to our driveway. Fortunately, she was in the car. But it still tried to stare her down, while switching its tail around, before trotting away.
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